
On 3/17/09, IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman told the Senate Finance Committee:
“. . . Thousands of Taxpayers have been victimized by dozens of fraudulent investment schemes. These too-good-to-be-true investment uses have often taken the form of so-called “Ponzi schemes” (i.e., the fraud perpetrator promises investments returns, some or all of which are fictitious) . . . The Madoff scandal has affected a very large and diverse pool of Investors, some of whom are reported to have lost most of their life savings . . . To help provide clarity and to assist Taxpayers the IRS is today issuing guidance articulating the tax rules that apply and providing “safe harbor” procedures for Taxpayers who sustained losses in certain investment arrangements discovered to be criminally fraudulent.”
In response, the IRS issued Rev. Rul. 2009-9, Rev. Proc. 2009-20 which allows Investors, defrauded by “Ponzi schemes” (including Madoff’s “Ponzi scheme”) to claim an IRC §165(e) theft loss deduction (i.e., ordinary loss deductions not a capital loss deduction for their “qualified investment” (Rev. Proc. 2009-20, Sec 2.06).
(1) Rev. Rul. 2009-9
Under Rev. Rul. 2009-9 (as stated by IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman, 3/17/09 Senate Finance Committee Appearance):
1. An Investor’s theft loss from a Ponzi scheme is a theft loss, which is not a capital loss (i.e., the theft loss is not subject to the normal limits on losses from investments, which typically limit the loss deduction to $3,000 per year when it exceeds capital gains from investments).
2. “Investment” theft losses are not subject to limitations that apply to “personal” casualty and theft losses (i.e., the loss is deductible as an itemized deduction, but is not subject to the test (10%) percent of AGI reduction or the $500 reduction (2009) that applies to many casualty and theft loss deductions).
3. The theft loss is deductible in the year the fraud is discovered (2008, in the Madoff case) (except to the extent there is a claim with a reasonable prospect of recovery).
The tax year in which the Investor discovers the theft (IRC §164(e)) must be the same tax year in which an indictment or similar allegation is made at the State or Federal level against the promoter of the scheme (i.e., a conviction is not required).
Under Rev. Rul. 2009-9 (Rev. Proc. 2009-20), the amount of the theft loss is the “qualified investment” (i.e., amount of money invested that was lost), plus post-2004 “phantom net income” from the “investment” less reimbursement, or other compensation (see Rev. Rul. 2009-9, Issue #7, limitation on “phantom income post-2004″).
(2) Rev. Proc. 2009-20
The IRS “Safe Harbor” (Rev. Proc. 2009-20) provides investors with:
1. A uniform manner for determining their theft losses.
2. Alleviates Taxpayer compliance burdens.
3. Avoids evidentiary problems for fictitious income reported (i.e., a return of capital).
Under the Rev. Proc. 2009-20 “safe harbor”, Investors may claim tax deductions in the year that the theft was discovered (in the Madoff case, Tax Year 2008). If the Investor does not declare the theft loss in their original 2008 tax returns, with extensions, they may declare the loss and amend their 2008 tax returns up to 3 years after their tax returns were filed, with extensions (i.e., up to October 15, 2012).
Under the “IRS safe harbor”, the tax deductions may be claimed in an amount equal to 95% of their net loss (for Investors who do not pursue 3rd third party claims) or 75% of their net loss (for Investors who intend to pursue 3rd party claims against advisors who referred the Madoff investment).
Under Rev. Rul. 2009-9, any recovery is includible in Taxpayer’s gross income, under the tax benefit rule, to the extent the earlier deduction reduced Taxpayer’s income tax (IRC §111, Treas. Reg. Sec. 1.165-(d)(2)(iii)).
Taxpayers who invested in the Madoff scheme indirectly (e.g., through a “feeder fund”) will not directly report the tax loss. Instead the feeder fund will report the loss and the Taxpayer will report their allocable share of the loss on their individual tax return.
(3) No “Safe Harbor”
Taxpayers who do not apply the “safe harbor” treatment may deduct pre-2005 “phantom income” and amend prior years’ tax returns. (However, if there is no safe harbor election, tax returns claiming theft loss deductions from fraudulent investment arrangements are subject to examination by the IRS.)
Rev. Proc. 2009-20: “If the Taxpayer can establish the amount of net income from the investment arrangement, reported on tax returns, consistent with information received from the specified fraudulent arrangement in taxable years for which the period of limitation on filing a claim for refund under IRC §6511 has expired, the IRS will not challenge the Taxpayer’s inclusion of that amount in basis for determining the amount of any allowable theft loss, whether or not the income was genuine.”
(4) Tax-Loss Carry Forward (20 years)/Carry Back (5 years)
If the theft losses result in a 2008 net operating loss, the Taxpayer may:
1. Carry the loss forward 20 years.
2. Carry the loss back up to five tax years (and receive tax refunds). The five year loss carry-back rule requires that Taxpayer does not have more than $15M in average gross income for the 3 year period ending in which the loss occurs (IRC §172(b)(1)(H)(iv)), as amended by Section 1211 of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, Pub. L. No. 111-5, 123 Stat. 115 (Feb. 17, 2009).
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#1 by Lenore on July 5th, 2010
They are trying to kill all small business. Here is the CNN link.
"Section 9006 of the health care bill — just a few lines buried in the 2,409-page document — mandates that beginning in 2012 all companies will have to issue 1099 tax forms not just to contract workers but to any individual or corporation from which they buy more than $600 in goods or services in a tax year."
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbusiness/1099_health_care_tax_change/index.htm
#2 by Wordpress on July 5th, 2010
LOL@the feeble Goon propaganda, even after their own CEO backstabbed them, destroyed the alliance and stole most of the assets.
#3 by WPBlog Shop on July 5th, 2010
@849738 Fountain Had fallen mainly sue to the people who owned it having stopped logging in. They recently did stat logging in again and the new owners lost a huge amount of ships and capitals to them, as they are completely terrible.
ANYWAY, the CEO went off for a holiday for 2 weeks. Unfortunately he forgot to transfer authority to someone to be able to move money from one account to the other. SO when the sov bills came in there was not enough money in the kitty…
#4 by WPMixer on July 5th, 2010
so wait, goonfleet isn’t the most powerful group in eve anymore?
#5 by Bwahaha on July 6th, 2010
Illegal income is reported on line 21 of a 1040 return. If you had expenses in gaining that income you may wish to use a Schedule C and report the net income on line 12 as an alternative. If the expenses are ordinary and necessary and you report all of the income there should not be any questions to ask.
#6 by Andreu on July 6th, 2010
By law, there is an amount of the paycheck that is exempt from levy. The amount is based on the taxpayer's filing status and number of exemptions. See Publication 1494 at the IRS web site.
That being said, some employers mistakenly DO take the entire check. I'd ask this person to show you his paystub before lending him any money. I'd also requre him to call the IRS and setup an installment agreement if he still owes taxes. This will stop the levy.
#7 by Free Blog on July 6th, 2010
@849738 (cont) So sov dropped all over the place and Goons who had gone to bed with all their stuff in stations suddenly found they logged back in in the morning and half their stations were gone and they could not get their stuff. They broke a load of stuff out in the next week or so but it was such a huge clustermash that people quit the game en masse.
The CEO came back 2 weeks later, made a stupid post, everyone said “f you”, and he got pissed, dissolved the alliance and stole the wallet
#8 by charlessmith702210@sbcglobal.net on July 6th, 2010
Read about:
- adjustments to income: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/pt04.html
- itemized deductions: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/pt05.html
#9 by Anonymous on July 6th, 2010
@849738
(cont) so both the previous owners and Goons filled up delve with stations. Suddenly the rules changed and having lots of stations was a huge liability, along with other stuff that meant moon mining was no longer woth that much money. so goons suddely had a huge outlay and far less money coming in. Now the thing is when the sov changed Goojns were attacked from all sides by a huge load of idiots. 2 months later they had not taken anything in Delve…
#10 by wonderallthetime on July 7th, 2010
#11 by Blogger on July 7th, 2010
@Subher0 Who’s Band of Brothers/Lottka Volteria? Where is BOB/LV/FIX/EXE?ETC? I can’t? seem to find these. They seems to have “disappeared”…
(And it was Goonfleet not Goonswarm. Learn to read the heading dearheart)
#12 by FineArt1983 on July 7th, 2010
The IRS will not always force a sale. but as executor of the estate, you are required to settle all debits before the probate court closes the estate; so unless you have cash to settle, you'll have more issues with the probate court for failure to fulfill your job as executor than the IRS.
Sell
If you contact the IRS and advise them you are closing out the estate and need 90 days to pay out the lien, they will gladly accept that.
#13 by Anonymous on July 7th, 2010
@FearLancer2
“while everyone who doesnt do what they do”
That would be… who? Cause i cant think of anyone that doesn’t…
#14 by Anonymous on July 7th, 2010
@849738
The goons aren’t dead in Eve. They were active up north with the Northern Coalition fighting off the legion of blob from the south and beating them again.
TO understand what happened you have to look at the way system sovereignty is handled in Eve. Essentially, to hold space you have to pay money to hold it. Having a systaion in a system means you have to pay more money. But in the previous sov system having 3 stations in a constellation made it ver hard to take…
#15 by Anonymous on July 8th, 2010
@jimmysaint13 Thanks
#16 by Ophelia on July 8th, 2010
#17 by Smita on July 8th, 2010
The reimbursement covers all vehicle costs including; gas, oil, deprecation, maintance and lease payments.
see put 463 p15 & 16
#18 by Create Zen on July 9th, 2010
They will hold the money to cover any old debts you owe them…every year until you are brought current…if you still owe after they take your 07 refund they can take your rebate too…